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Poster: Skobud Date: Apr 8, 2013 8:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pigpen

"The '60s were very sexist times, not to excuse Pigpen, just to note that he had a lot of social support for his kind of raps - audiences ate them up."

Fuck yea they were. Leon Russell made an entire career doing essentially the same style as Pig. More R&B but full of raps.

Whatever happened to just being fucking "wild"? Everybody knows some crazy motherfucker(s) like that. At least I have. Dudes from outer space, like a different breed. That's how I think of him. My conclusion about him is that he was a fucking presence wherever he went. He drank all day every day. That is insane.

Man's World opener from 4/15/70 pretty much sums up everything I love about Pig in one tune. He was a badass. The power of the voice. Like Wolf. The emotion he conveyes is locomotive style. Dominating shit.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Apr 8, 2013 11:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pigpen

It seems to me Leon Russell made a career of writing standards like A Song for You,This Masquerade,Superstar,I Put a Spell on You and that's not even getting into the bulk of his more rock,r+b,blues,country repertoire.He is also a very talented musician on keyboards,bass and guitar and played on countless studio sessions.So some blues raps aside I can't see how they have anything at all in common.Howlin' Wolf was a legend and to put Pigpen on his level is a stretch,Pig had a weak voice and I've never heard him get through a vocal without some sort of screw up,voice crack,or timing issue.

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Poster: Skobud Date: Apr 8, 2013 6:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pigpen

I disagree. You are changing what I actually said so it suits your point. You have completely missed my point. Leon and Pig were similar in some ways and I think Pig had a powerful voice.

To say Leon and Pig had "nothing in common" is simply not true. Have you ever even heard "Leon Live"? I have no idea how you can say they have nothing in common. That is total bullshit.

When I said "Like Wolf" I was referring to the power of Pig's voice when his game was on. I never compared them as musicians. I was talking about the power of the voice - not who was a better or more talented musician.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Apr 8, 2013 8:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pigpen

As I pointed out Leon made a career out of being a great songwriter,singer and musician who performed many styles of music from blues,c+w,r+b,rock and gospel.You said he made "an entire career doing essentially the same style as Pig",which is really undervaluing Leon's talents,I did not completely miss your point I completely disagree with it.I think saying Pig,a half-ass,blues wannabe and the great Leon Russell have common ground is quite humorous.As for Pig's powerful voice I guess we'll have to say to each his own.

I didn't compare Howlin' Wolf and Pigpen as musicians either,I said"Howlin' Wolf was a legend and to put Pigpen on his level is a stretch,Pig had a weak voice and I've never heard him get through a vocal without some sort of screw up,voice crack or timing issue".




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Poster: Skobud Date: Apr 9, 2013 4:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pigpen

You just completely repeated yourself. Fine. I get it.

According to you Pigpen is a half-assed wannabe and "The Great" Leon Russell is extremely talented and terribly undervalued and shares absolutely no common ground with Pigpen nor does Pigpen share any comon ground with Wolf, and bringing them up in the same conversation is blasphemy.

Whatever.







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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Apr 9, 2013 8:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pigpen

Partially correct,but any further discussion seems useless because you are still half wrong and it is a ridiculous conversation.

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Poster: Skobud Date: Apr 9, 2013 12:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pigpen

Ridiculous is correct, you've now repeated yourself twice and just now called me "partially correct" and "half wrong" in the same sentence. That doesn't even make sense.

Listen man, obviously no one has explained to you that if you do not have the basic grammar skills required to write properly, it invalidates any point you make. Every sentence you write is a run on and the punctuation is totally fucking wrong. How you can possibly expect to be taken seriously is beyond me, especially when the basic rules of grammar are obviously out of your reach.

If you are going to talk so much shit, at least have the common courtesy of learning basic sentence structure.

I read up on you dude. This LIA wannabe thing you think you are doing is as transparent as your logic. Just because you think something is true, does not make it true. It only makes it your opinion - which is both "partially correct" and "half wrong".


This post was modified by Skobud on 2013-04-09 19:02:46